Carnival Corp. CEO: Demand should be ‘more than adequate’ at the restart

Carnival Corp. CEO Arnold Donald at a Cruise3Sixty event in 2018.

Carnival Corp. expects demand to be “more than adequate to fill ships in a staggered restart,” said CEO Arnold Donald during a business update call with analysts.

Donald said he was not concerned about achieving this without substantial bookings from the new-to-cruise market, because two-thirds of its global guests, 8 million each year, are repeat cruisers. He said Carnival Corp. has an active database of nearly 40 million past guests, and the average frequency of cruisers to repeat is every two to three years.

“Clearly cruise will not come back all at once,” Donald said. “We intend to resume with a small percentage of the fleet, which inherently makes us less reliant on new-to-cruise in the early days.”

As opposed to other down cycles, the limited capacity will help achieve stronger pricing when cruising initially resumes.

“Historically we had only two levers to pull in a down cycle: occupancy and rate,” Donald said. “In this environment, we’ll have a third: capacity.”

Donald said Carnival is very encouraged by the booking patterns it is seeing. He said that this week, when it announced that Aida Cruises would resume service in Germany in August, it had over 1,000 bookings in one day, “taking up a significant portion of the first sailings and on a very short notice period.”

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He said forward bookings include not only a number of future cruise credits (FCCs) but “substantial new bookings and even new-to-cruise bookings, which given the current state of the environment in the world is really a good testament to how strong a vacation experience and value cruising really is.”

When asked if brands that were more badly tarnished by the media attention on cruise ship outbreaks in the early days of the pandemic, such as Princess, were being disproportionately affected in terms of consumers’ preference, Donald said the line is “trending with all the other brands in the industry.”

In fact, he said that none of the brands in the industry had reached what he called “the trough” of 2012 or 2013 when a number of negative, high-profile incidents. such as the engine room fire on the Carnival Triumph and the sinking of the Costa Concordia, rocked the cruise industry and Carnival Corp. specifically.

“None of the brands in the industry, ours or others, have gone to the low levels that we experienced at that time,” he said. “The trough in this period has been higher than the trough in that period.

“So there is a lot of pent-up demand, a lot of latent demand,” he continued. “That doesn’t mean we don’t have work to do once we start cruising with much larger volumes of capacity to attract new to cruise. Of course, we will have work to do, but right now the brands are strong, the bookings are encouraging, and with the staggered start we’re going to have in the resumption of cruising, there should be plenty of pent-up, latent demand with previous cruisegoers to fill the ships.”

Donald also said that having national brands in its portfolio is “clearly an asset” in this situation because as nations reintroduce social gathering and cruising, they are “most likely initially to restrict reactivation to their own residents exclusively.”

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P&O Iona waiting for delivery.

Carnival’s German brand sources 95% from Germany; P&O UK is 98% British-sourced; Costa Europe is 80% continental Europe-sourced; P&O Australia is more than 99% sourced from Australia and New Zealand, and Carnival Cruise Line is 92% U.S.-sourced, Donald said.

“We are very well positioned,” Donald said. “Additionally, the fact that these brands are characterized by ready access, with the drive-to market and prevalence of shorter duration cruises, strengthens the possibility for success in today’s environment.”

Donald said that in general, longer cruises such as world cruises are not booking as well as shorter ones, which he said makes sense given the uncertainty of whether ports are open or closed in different regions.

For the second quarter, which ended May 31, Carnival reported a loss of $2.4 billion on revenue of $740 million,  compared with $451 million in net income on $4.8 billion in revenue during the same period in 2019.

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2021 bookings  

As of June 21, Carnival reported that approximately half of the guests on cancelled cruises requested cash refunds. The company also said that despite substantially reduced marketing and selling spend, it continues to see new 2021 bookings.

During the first three weeks in June, almost 60% of 2021 bookings were new bookings, Carnival said, with the remaining booking volumes from guests applying FCCs to specific future cruises.

Advanced 2021 bookings are currently within historical ranges at prices that are down in the low- to the mid-single-digits range, which included the negative yield impact of FCCs and onboard credits applied.

Carnival said the majority of its customer deposits of $2.6 billion are in FCCs, and $121 million in third-quarter sailings and $353 million in fourth-quarter sailings.

Carnival Cruise Line: applying learnings from its largest-ever refurbishment

Carnival Triumph’s transformation into Carnival Sunrise includes a suspended ropes course as part of its sports square (credit: Andy Newman)
Carnival Triumph’s transformation into Carnival Sunrise includes a suspended ropes course as part of its sports square (credit: Andy Newman)Carnival Triumph’s transformation into Carnival Sunrise includes a suspended ropes course as part of its sports square (credit: Andy Newman)
Carnival Cruise Line vice president revitalisation and hotel refurbishment Lisa McCabe opens up on the transformation of Carnival Sunrise and how this will be incorporated into Carnival Victory’s revitalisation In 2019 Carnival Cruise Line carried out the largest refurbishment in its history – and it is using those learnings as it plans a major retrofit for Carnival Sunrise

Carnival Cruise Line vice president revitalisation and hotel refurbishment Lisa McCabe explains “At US$200M, the transformation of Carnival Triumph into Carnival Sunrise was the largest single-ship refurbishment in our company’s history, involving a 38-day drydock in Cadiz, Spain with 7,000 ship employees and contractors working 24/7 to make Carnival Sunrise a reality.

“Given the complexity of the refit, the process was streamlined and efficient. The end result is simply amazing – new dining and beverage outlets, exciting top-deck attractions including a massive water park and a suspended ropes course, updated staterooms and suites, enhanced guest flow and a more contemporary feel overall.”

The company is now gearing up for another major transformation – that of Carnival Victory’s transformation into Carnival Radiance.

Carnival Sunrise includes exciting new top-deck attractions, including a massive water park (credit: Andy Newman)

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Ms McCabe says “We learned so much from the Carnival Sunrise drydock and have incorporated these learnings as we began the planning for Carnival Victory’s transformation into Carnival Radiance. Not only in the work itself but in all aspects of the refit, from staffing, working with suppliers and vendors and the logistical challenges that come with a project of this magnitude. Our designers have also changed the layout for Carnival Radiance – relocating the Guy Fieri BBQ to enhance visibility and ultimately drive more traffic.”

Carnival Radiance will also feature the first Big Chicken restaurant by its Chief Fun Officer Shaquille O’Neal. “Incorporating a brand new restaurant concept into a renovated ship has its share of challenges – from sourcing materials to equipment and logos – but we worked closely with our internal design teams as well as Shaq’s personnel to create a dining venue we’re sure our guests will enjoy,” says Ms McCabe.

Elaborating on Carnival Cruise Line’s refurbishment strategy, she says “All 27 of our ships undergo a refit every few years and between 2020 and 2021, 13 ships – roughly half our fleet – will undergo a drydock with the work being done varying by ship. Interestingly, because of a lack of drydock space here in North America, we’re refurbishing more ships in Europe which can create even more logistical and staffing challenges given that it’s not as close as our other facilities and we have to sail across the Atlantic just to get there and back. Our marketing and itinerary planning teams are hard at work creating attractive new transatlantic crossings for our guest.”

She expands that every ship in the fleet will undergo at least one major refurbishment during its lifetime and “our focus is making sure we are able to schedule these drydocks and closely manage not only the schedule but also staffing, logistics, design and provisioning to ensure we deliver a quality refit on time and on a budget”.

These refits are part of a US$2Bn ship enhancement project that is introducing new features and standardising offerings across the fleet.

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Ms McCabe says “With many of these refurbishments, we are adding spaces that have proven very popular with our guests – the Caribbean-inspired RedFrog Pub, the cocktail pharmacy-themed Alchemy Bar, expansive water parks and the transformation of the three-deck main theatre into the multi-purpose Liquid Lounge across two decks which allows for a more intimate space with enhanced sightlines while at the same time providing an opportunity to add staterooms in the previous space.”

She points out that the upcoming refurbishment of Carnival Miracle will mark the installation of the 27th Guy’s Burger Joint by longtime partner and Food Network star Guy Fieri so the venues are now available fleetwide.

Asked about the current challenges when it comes to refurbishing the interiors of the cruise ships, Ms McCabe says “Refurbishing ship interiors is an extremely involved and complex process that begins several years before the refit actually takes place. It is imperative that we come up with creative solutions that offer the guest new experiences while also satisfying the needs of our operational teams on board. Real estate is very valuable, and it is important to make spaces multifunctional. In addition to securing quality vendors and subcontractors to refurbish the space the way it was designed, the overall look and feel have to be eye-catching, functional and timeless as it will likely be on the ship for many years.”

Sustainability is also a priority when it comes to interior refits. Ms McCabe says “Being a leader in environmental stewardship is a top priority for Carnival Cruise Line and this, of course, extends to our ship refurbishment programme. We take sustainability into account in everything we do – from the materials, we source to the vendors we use and how they work is carried out each day. We are constantly evaluating our procedures and processes to make sure we are operating in a way that reflects our commitment to being an environmental leader.”

Snapshot CV: Lisa McCabe (Carnival Cruise Line)

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Lisa McCabe joined Carnival Corp in 2009 and moved to Carnival Cruise Line to build the refurbishment department in 2012.

She leads a team of project managers responsible for most of the cruise line’s large-scale drydock projects throughout the fleet that includes adding new branded food and beverage venues, stateroom renovations and additions, water parks and upgrades to crew spaces. During her time at Carnival Cruise Line, Ms McCabe has been responsible for over 500 refurbishment projects in shipyards throughout the US, the Bahamas, and Singapore.

Ms McCabe studied interior design at Florida International University and has focused her career on refurbishing ships.

Carnival Triumph getting a $200M redo and a new name

Carnival Triumph is to become the Carnival Sunrise.

Carnival Cruise Line will budget $200 million for an overhaul of the Carnival Triumph so sweeping that the ship will get a new name, the Carnival Sunrise.

It is only the second time that Carnival has renamed a ship of its own design. In 2013, it rechristened the former Carnival Destiny as the Carnival Sunshine. 

Carnival said the two ships will form the new Sunshine class. The $200 million sum is the largest ever spent by a cruise line in a ship renovation.

By the time the work begins next March, the Triumph will be 20 years old. It is perhaps best known for an engine-room fire in 2013 that left it disabled off the coast of Mexico without power for most hotel services. The ship had to be towed back to the United States, on a four-day odyssey that was memorialized as “the poop cruise” because toilets didn’t work for most of the trip.

In the two-month renovation, to be done at the Navantia shipyard in Cadiz, Spain, a laundry list of Fun Ship 2.0 features will be added to the ship, including seven restaurants, two bars, two lounges, three new pool deck attractions, a newly designed spa, two new children’s play areas and new retail spaces, including a candy store. 

Gus Antocha, Carnival’s chief operating officer, said the additions complement certain upgrades that had already been made to the Triumph, such as Guy’s Burger Joint.

Unique to the Sunrise will be what Antocha called “bridge wing suites,” encompassing two junior suites and two larger Captain’s Suites adjacent to the bridge, which will be redesigned with floor-to-ceiling windows. That means the ship’s capacity, listed as 2,758 passengers at double occupancy, will remain relatively unchanged.

“We’re adding a handful of different spaces,” Antocha said. When the Carnival Sunshine was created, an extra 182 cabins were added to the Carnival Destiny.

The first sailing of the Carnival Sunrise, following a renaming ceremony, will be from Norfolk, Va., where the ship will begin a series of five- to seven-day cruises on April 29, 2019. It will then move to New York for the summer for a series of four- to 14-day cruises, starting May 23. It will move to Fort Lauderdale for four- and five-day cruises in October.